Ep 250 – How to Stay on Track While Traveling

In this episode, Dani and Alice break down how to stay on track with your fitness goals while traveling, without making your life miserable.

They cover realistic expectations for different types of trips, how to approach workouts on the road, and creative ways to hit protein targets as a vegan.

From packing strategies and grocery hacks to gym alternatives and travel-friendly tools, this episode is packed with practical advice for maintaining (or at least not losing) progress while away from home.

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TRANSCRIPT

Dani (00:00)
Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of Vegan Proteins Muscles by Brussels Radio. My name is Dani. And welcome to today’s show, which we have already recorded once many weeks ago and we are re-recording because I had technological difficulties. So you get a whole new episode, basically. Same topic, but I’m sure it’s gonna be different. ⁓

Alice (00:05)
I’m Alice.

What?

Yeah, we can’t remember. It

feels like it’s been a month, even though it’s been like a week and a February is bananas. Too much.

Dani (00:27)
my God, has it been a week and a half? my God, I cannot handle that time. geez. Yeah.

It’s way, way too much, way too much. But have you had a chance on any of the other podcasts that you’ve recorded to talk about your Strongman competition?

Alice (00:45)
not really. I talked about my back.

Dani (00:46)
All right, well since that’s one of the

things that we like definitely covered when we recorded this before I do want to talk about your strongman competition how it went how you felt about it Alice had come up here to she stayed with us in Massachusetts because her competition was up in Maine About an hour and a half two hours away something like that So we Jack Mo and I were super psyched to get to go and actually like watch this in person

So I’m not gonna explain all of it to you, but I wanna hear like how you felt about it immediately and how you feel about it now that it’s been a few weeks.

Alice (01:20)
⁓ man, there was so much anxiety leading up to it. Mostly excitement, but you know, you get that anxiety and there’s like waves. comes in good and it comes in bad. But I was overall just grateful that I was doing it and pushing myself in all new ways. leading up to the competition, it felt like the universe was like, no, you’re not going to do this.

So I think that sort of magnified like a little bit of the negativity. And I’m like, we have to just like be immune to all this. We had a snowstorm the weekend before. We had a snowstorm that looked like it was gonna hit up north again the weekend of, but it ended up veering south and actually hitting my home in Virginia instead.

Carson got a cold and so I was like walking around my own home with my medical mask on trying desperately not to get sick. And because of all that snow, I was really thinking that my flights would probably get delayed and or canceled. Somehow none of that happened. But I did end up getting sick. I thought I had like missed that, but yeah.

Dani (02:23)
Like.

And it was like a day before, like

one day before, I remember the morning I woke up before and you were like, I’m sick, it’s happening. And I was like, no.

Alice (02:32)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I’m really, gosh, I’m so glad that I was able to be with you guys and be up there for this first competition. And thank you for specifying it was only an hour and a half away because it sounds like Maine, like, that sounds like a long way away.

Dani (02:49)
Yeah, yeah.

It’s like not close, but the border of Maine is like 40 minutes from my house. You can drive through the little piece of New Hampshire and right into Maine in like 40 minutes. People don’t realize how close together the states are in New England. Yeah.

Alice (03:02)
Yeah, yeah, it’s

good. And it was there was so much snow on the ground. my gosh, there’s still snow. Y’all are still getting snowed on like crazy.

Dani (03:09)
There is so much more snow now.

Alice (03:12)
There’s like

probably not any place for the snow plows to put the new snow. It’s that bad

Dani (03:17)
No,

that’s that’s the I think that’s the number one reason like some schools are still canceled today, even though the blizzard was on Sunday. Because and it’s Wednesday today because the snow piles are so big. I mean some of them are like probably 1215 feet tall like kids walking down the street. It’s very scary when you turn the corner around a snow pile and there’s like another car or person and you’re just like, so you have to crawl. But yeah, it’s knowing again right now, right now it’s knowing.

Alice (03:43)
There’s literally

no place for the children to stand to wait for us, I’m sure.

Dani (03:46)
Yeah, just the road

you just stand in the road So but it was funny we had the ⁓ Rhode Island VegFest this past weekend and that’s when the blizzard was supposed to hit was Sunday and All weekend there was like this buzz of like man We’re gonna have to shut down the VegFest early Sunday But the VegFest people were like you guys can’t leave early like it looks really bad if the vendors leave early and people bought tickets for this in advance and we’re like Okay, I guess we’ll stay till 5, but it didn’t

Alice (03:50)
Yeah.

Dani (04:14)
it stopped nobody from coming out. Like, no, it was busier on Sunday than it was on Saturday. Giacomo and I did race home to beat the storm, which was a little scary, because I don’t like driving in the dark, let alone fast in the dark. anyway, we did beat the storm. But I want to hear about the competition itself, like how you felt doing the competition.

Alice (04:34)
During the competition, we got there so early, which actually relieves my anxiety. So that was actually a good thing that we were there early for me and my brain. Giacomo was sitting there like talking to me and he was like, I’m feeling validated as you’re just getting all your stuff organized and folded and ready. But everyone there was so friendly, so friendly. Like I had complete strangers, people in the audience, other competitors, men and women coming up to me and just saying nice things the whole time.

Like, ⁓ I saw you get your lift on your blah, blah, blah. It’s a really great job. You look great out there. a lot of people were like, is this your first competition? I guess, I guess I look green or something. So I’m like, yes, yes. but it was great energy. ⁓ let’s see. So the axle clean and press was my first lift and probably, probably my favorite lift, if I’m really totally honest. and I came so close to hitting a new PR.

I was like, I thought for sure I had it. I just couldn’t like fully extend elbows up. And so like I posted a real, just like showing on my list and I included that fail just because I was like proud of the fail. ⁓ I lifted 110 on the axle clean and press. I, let’s see, second event was deadlift.

Dani (05:40)
Mm-hmm.

Alice (05:51)
And I hit my regular lift, my 275. ⁓ However, by the time I got my second lift, my back was starting to sort of talk to me and I had recently had like a back sprain like two weeks before. Ankle strain, right, back strain. Yes. You sprain your ankle, you strain the muscle.

Dani (06:12)
strain, yeah.

Alice (06:17)
And it was starting to talk to me again. when I went to go try like my third attempt to see if I could like hit a new PR, it was a mistake. It was a mistake trying to hit a new PR because my back very, very much like locked up. And so I’m in my head. I’m not really like expressing too much of my fear to like Dani and Giacomo because I’m not like, I’m like, I can’t just tell them like, I mean, I need to go home. I’m like, no, no, we’re gonna, we’re gonna.

tough it out and we’re going to stretch a lot and stay warm and we’re going to finish this competition. And I kept hoping like any second, any second, it’s just going to feel better. You know, I took more, I took more Tylenol, but gosh. And the hardest, I think the hardest part was that there was so much time in between the events. were only like nine women or something, competitors in there, period. And there were like almost 50,

male competitors. And so the women had to wait for all of the guys to finish the same event before we could go forward. And so we’re just sitting there, like I’m just sitting there just trying to stay warm. I’m like doing really light deadlifts. I’m like foam rolling. I’m like stretching. I’m just doing anything I can to try to like not let my body cool off. But third,

Dani (07:31)
It was a long

day, like from start to finish of when the actual event started, not even what time we got there. It was like probably eight hours or so, right?

Alice (07:41)
Now we were there for, mean, me and Giacomo were there for, that was like a 12 hour day. Cause we got there at like six and then we didn’t leave until after six.

Dani (07:47)
Man.

So I was just at a powerlifting meet on Saturday with my client Tammy who did great. It was in Boston. She’s from Virginia. It was freezing. She was not loving it. ⁓ But, but, but the meet started at nine. She was done by one and like that’s how it’s gotta be. Like even that length of time, four hours is a long time for like an athlete to like stay.

Alice (07:58)
She’s from Richmond. Yeah.

Dani (08:13)
excited and warm and ready to train like all day. That’s it was I was feeling for the athletes because I was like how are you going to stay like have that correct amount of athlete arousal to keep doing this all day like your adrenaline is just going to like peter out at some point.

Alice (08:30)
Yeah. gosh. it was hard and I was very frustrated at the time. Looking back, I can remember like feeling very frustrated, but, third, third lift. We did farmers hold instead of farmers carry. So I remember telling people about that and everyone’s like, ⁓ really? You’re doing the whole, not the carry? Yes. Yes. Holding farmers handles for as long as you can. And I was really nervous about this because I had gotten,

The promoter had reached out to me a couple of weeks before and was like, Hey, I’d really like to see if you could enroll and open instead of novice. So I was originally planning on doing novice and that just basically means you’re not competing against anyone. You’re going in there. You’re, you’re just saying, I want to lift these things and it doesn’t matter what anyone else is doing. You can’t win anything, but you’re there. You’re there to just sort of like not fail anything. But he really encouraged me and the, that meant was my farmer’s handles had.

had to be like basically 30 pounds heavier than what I was currently doing. ⁓

Dani (09:27)
And it was

it was 150 pounds each hand, right? Yeah.

Alice (09:30)
Yes.

So it was basically like doing a deadlift from like a couple inches higher, like in each side of you for like 300 pounds. gosh. ⁓ and I held it for like, I think like 30 seconds, I think even, which I was pretty proud of considering originally I was going in there thinking I’m just going to get a few seconds. So very better than just a few seconds.

Dani (09:51)
Mm-hmm.

Alice (09:54)
Um, last event was Max Yoke Carry and I did 350 pounds. Uh, and I love Yoke Carry. It’s so fun. uh, we were supposed to have two attempts, but because my back was so tight, I did it. I was like, you know what? think since I did, I got my first attempt fine, I’m just going to pass my second attempt and no one had a problem with that. And actually one of the other ladies was like, that’s actually a really good idea. I think I’m to do that too.

Dani (10:03)
huh.

Yeah, it seems kind of crazy to have people do that twice. To what, maybe add 10, 20 pounds to it? Like, I don’t know. But it…

Alice (10:28)
I think some people

were adding 25 to 50 pounds depending. I don’t know

Dani (10:31)
Yeah,

and I mean, some of the guys were adding a couple hundred pounds, which is kind of wild, yeah, mean, overall, good experience, bad experience. I know you’ve had a lot of thoughts since then.

Alice (10:41)
It was a good experience and I definitely want to do it again. I, got a little, I got a little metal. It felt really good to get something. Cause even though I’d only been training since September, it was still like, that was a lot of work. That was a lot of time. That was a lot of hours. ⁓ and dealing with the back stuff was nerve wracking. I want to do it again. I’m just not going to do it. I might do something else at the end of this year. but I’m thinking, you know,

The original plan was to do like two more competitions this year. I’m thinking maybe one more. We will see. We will see.

Dani (11:11)
Yeah, I’m usually a big fan of two competitions for powerlifters per year, but every one of my powerlifters wants to do more than that, so that’s a constant push-pull that we have. Because it’s just so much on your body to be like that close to max all the time. And strongman is even different, like in my opinion strongman is probably even tougher on the body because they are a lot less strict about the form on things and some of the movements require…

Alice (11:22)
Ha

Dani (11:39)
weird form, you know, like there’s no neat and tidy way to axle clean and press up near your max, you know, like it’s pretty, watching some of the girls, was like, my God.

Alice (11:40)
Mm-hmm.

the belt.

Yeah. Olympic lifters would look at that and be like, gosh, clean the bar up to your belt and then like hoist it up into the correct rack position. Yes.

Dani (11:59)
In like a semi-backbend, that was

crazy to watch. I I literally thought one of the girls was going down, like backwards, just trying to get it there. And then she took her belt off, because it was like impeding her, and I was like, she’s going to die. She didn’t, but ⁓ yeah. So.

Alice (12:06)
Yeah.

I

And the spotters

were not like all up on us either. Like that was what was making me really scared. I’m like, what are you doing? Get in there.

Dani (12:19)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it was really interesting as somebody who’s been to a million powerlifting meets, but only seen strongman competitions when we’re out there with plant-built, so I see them in like bits and pieces. I was like, this is totally, totally different. This is like the wild, wild west of strength sports here. ⁓

Alice (12:37)
It really is.

so the reason that, know, Strongman is so difficult is because similar to CrossFit, you can literally do almost anything. They kind of have like their core lifts, but then a lot of the promoters will be like, oh, we’re going to make this really interesting and do like a mystery event or like do us like, what was I watching? I was watching some worlds from like 2025 or 2024.

and they had these women like try to like press yolks.

Dani (13:10)
Okay, hmm, interesting.

Alice (13:11)
Yeah.

And yolks are heavy, like really heavy on their own. And so many of those women just like failed. And it’s like, you came that far to fail and it wasn’t even the last thing in the heat. I’m just like.

Dani (13:15)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Alice (13:26)
That

would just, I would be on fire if I was in that competition. Can’t we just, I mean, it’s fine. It’s fine. have different lifts, but like sometimes there’s too much creativity.

Dani (13:36)
Yeah, so I actually Friday is my first kind of CrossFit competition. mean, it’s not really a competent. I’m not going to a competition. It’s the CrossFit open. So if people aren’t familiar what that is, it’s once a year for three weeks. There’s three workouts that everybody in the world basically does, and it gets judged as you’re doing it and then put into a system to kind of see where you rank. And we don’t know what it’s going to be until Thursday night. And it’s Friday and.

One of the things that I already know is very much a possibility is there could be stuff in the workout that I just cannot do. Like if there’s ring muscle ups or something in there, I can’t do it, which kind of sucks, right? I mean, like I can scale it and do something else and there might be a different thing for me to do for my age group or something. I don’t know. But yeah, it’s a little nerve wracking to not really know what you’re training for, I guess.

Alice (14:24)
So Strongman,

we do know what we’re training for when we sign up for the competition, right? They might have, like I said, there might be a mystery event, but there’s usually only like one of those, right? And that’s not a common thing. But for CrossFit, is it always like that? You never know what you’re going to do or?

Dani (14:27)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Until well with the open you’d find out the day before with some competitions you find out a few days before But it’s like, you know, you can’t so some people do like a test run of the of the workout Which is what the competition is. It’s not really like this is the event. It’s like it’s a workout You have a certain amount of time But they’re all different it could be get as many reps as possible in this amount of time It could be do five rounds of this as fast as you can. It could be work up to a

Alice (14:48)
Okay.

Dani (15:08)
the heaviest weight you can in this particular barbell complex, you just don’t know. So, but I’m excited. I’m excited about it. Yeah, we’ll see. I mean, I’m also super, super stressed because it’s Friday night, probably from 5.30 till like eight o’clock. And then we have to be at the airport at seven in the morning for the cruise.

Alice (15:15)
Yeah, I should be excited.

⁓ my goodness, Dani wow.

Dani (15:30)
Yeah, and then,

and then I’m gonna miss the second one, because I’m gonna be on the cruise. So we get home on, I think, Sunday night, and then I gotta come in on Monday morning, basically, and do the second one that I missed to get it in before, like, you’re not allowed to get it in anymore. So not really setting myself up for success here, but what are you gonna do? So let’s talk about what we’re here to talk about, which is travel, appropriate segue here. ⁓

Alice (15:54)
you

Dani (15:56)
How do you stay on track when you’re traveling? And all of the different things that that could possibly entail. So I think for me, the first thing that I think about when I’m traveling is do I want to stay on track during this particular trip? Because I think that’s really, really important. If it’s a vacation that you’ve been saving for and planning for for like a year and mapping out all the stuff you want to do, like do you really?

Is it really appropriate for you to be tracking your macros while you’re trying to do that? I don’t really think so, unless there’s a very specific reason that you have to do that. But if you’re in a position like I’m in and you’re often in, we’re traveling a lot kind of routinely for work-related things. And if you kind of looked at every trip as a like, well, I’m just gonna wing it and hope for the best.

enough of those trips, will absolutely add up and start to move you further from your goals instead of closer to it. for the sake of this podcast, that’s the type of trip we’re gonna be talking about. We’re not suggesting you need to do these things on your vacation or your honeymoon or anything like that, but for those smaller trips, the trips that you kind of have to do, but don’t necessarily really want to do all the time, like how do you stay on track? And I know we both have our different ways, so I’ll let you talk about some of your favorite ways first.

Alice (17:13)
Can we talk about the gym first? Because it’s easier. So with the gym, know, we go on, I always refer to these vegan strong trips because these are the most challenging. It’s a very intense weekend where you’re usually there for a few days. I feel like I’m almost always like knee deep in goals when I’m on these trips. But thankfully right now I’m on a build. I think whether you’re on a build or you’re on a cut, I think that

Dani (17:15)
Yeah,

Alice (17:37)
you just sort of have to have like a fair, like this is the bar I’m going to reach and it’s not my normal bar, but it’s just like, sort of like planning for, as you’ve said before, planning for your reap, for your worst self, right? And so what that means is like, sort of being like at maintenance, not necessarily hitting numbers perfectly. but if you’re trying to lose weight, like then the goal on this trip becomes try to maintain, right?

Dani (18:01)
Mm-hmm.

Alice (18:02)
If you’re trying to gain weight, once again, like the goal is to not lose weight. ⁓ So I’m bulking right now. So normally I have, you know, pretty high protein goals. I would say like protein is like definitely the hardest thing to get when you’re traveling. So my like bare like bottom number that I have to hit is 100 grams of protein. And that’s like

Dani (18:07)
Right. Mm-hmm.

Alice (18:26)
doable, it’s still challenging, but it’s doable. and then just, we usually plan to go out to eat once a day, right? And hopefully you have a little bit of say in what restaurant you go to, right? Trying to find a place that has some protein, at least some tofu. Great. If you can find a place that has seitan, right? and the rest of the day, I’d say like packing, packing my protein, like I’m packing as much protein as I can, or I’m

planning on going to the grocery store and buying something that’s really easy to find, like Morningstar chicken strips. Right? I have been known to like make seitan in bulk and freeze it and then I will pack it in my bag. And by the time I arrive, it’s usually still not fully thawed out. So it works out very well for me. I’m a huge, huge fan of making seitan. So that’s, that’s what I like to do.

and I don’t know, do you want to talk a little bit about protein before I go forward with that?

Dani (19:23)
Well, first I want to talk a little bit about the gym. ⁓ If it’s possible, if it makes sense for your program, and especially depending on how many days you’re going to be away, this might not be necessary if it’s like two days. But if you’re going to be gone for several days, probably a good idea to try to line your deload up with that week, ⁓ because you’re probably not going even if you wanted to do your full routine, it’s probably going to be pretty challenging to do so.

Alice (19:27)
sorry, I forgot.

yeah.

Dani (19:52)
So if you can line your deload up where you’re doing either less fewer days or less volume or both, that’s great. I also, I really do like to travel with bands. I know bands, well, I could talk about this for a while, but for some exercises, I think bands are actually better than dumbbells. So I don’t always think that bands are a concession to dumbbells, but

If you pick up a 25 pound dumbbell, it’s always 25 pounds, but you have to work to make a band hard. So you have to be willing to do that. You have to be honest with yourself and be like, this is too easy. I could probably do a heavier band or I could choke up on this band. But if you are willing to do that, you can have some pretty good workouts with the bands. It’s different than what you do at home, but.

I, you’ll hear me talk about this a ton on the cruise, cause I talk about it in every class that I teach how valuable bands are for especially travel. so I always bring that in the set that I have has a little tiny like door anchor. So if I’m in a hotel, I can anchor it over the door in the side of the bathroom door, usually over the top of the door, the side of the door to do rows or pull downs. So we do that. yeah. also we check out the gyms that are in the area.

Alice (20:56)
Thank you.

Dani (21:01)
especially if it’s like me and Giacomo will usually check and see what gyms are there and if the day pass is reasonable. So you used to be able to get a day pass for $10 pretty easily. Now if we can find one for $20 that’s like good. Occasionally you’ll find a place that will like honor a free week or something if you’ve never been there before a free three days and if you can get that that’s awesome. You do usually have to put up with the personal training spiel which is kind of annoying but

You know, you get to train for free. And if you can book a hotel or an Airbnb that has a gym, that’s awesome. So an Airbnb with a gym would be like an apartment complex that allows you access to the gym. And some hotels, you know, there’s some hotels, the gyms are terrible, but some of them have pretty decent gyms that you can really make a decent workout out of.

Alice (21:49)
Yeah. I think if you can find a hotel gym that has a cable stack and usually you’re in there. If it has a cable stack and like a leg press or a leg extension, like you can do a lot. You can do a lot with that. You’ll be really lucky to find that. A lot of times you’ll go in and…

There’s like maybe a few dumbbells and a couple of like bikes and or treadmills and that’s about it. Yeah, I definitely recommend bands for a lot of people. I also I haven’t purchased this membership yet, but I probably will at some point in time. The black card at Planet Fitness. There are so many planet fitness is.

Dani (22:26)
it.

Alice (22:29)
spread it sprinkled all over the states that you’d be really hard pressed like to go pretty much anywhere and not find one within 15 minutes. Honestly, I used to do the YMCA. I was a member of the YMCA for years. And while that’s a lot, it’s more costly than the black card, obviously, they’re very similar. Like every time I’ve traveled, I’ve been able to find a Y within probably 40 minutes of wherever I’ve stayed.

Dani (22:54)
Mm-hmm.

Alice (22:55)
long as you’re in a city-ish place then that’s a really really good option. And if you’re if you’re a person who does road trips definitely get the Blackart because you can go and take a shower there. They nice showers. They have a lot of them have like the massage beds. So those are those are great things. We’ve ended up at like LA Fitness. Usually their passes are pretty good. We’ve ended up at

Dani (23:07)
Mm-hmm.

Alice (23:20)
You know, I can’t, I’ve never been able to find a good deal at a crunch, honestly.

Dani (23:25)
Yeah,

I don’t think I’ve really been anywhere where I’ve seen crunch, but we’ve also done 24 hour fitness is out West. But sometimes like different cities, especially because we’re often going to fitness expos like we’ll kind of hear word like check out this is the gym in this town that you should go to if you’re here for this weekend and usually those gyms are offering a special for people that are coming to the event so. ⁓

Alice (23:48)
Yeah,

what gym was that when we went to the Arnold? my gosh.

Dani (23:53)
I don’t know, because I didn’t go. But I know

what you’re talking about, but I didn’t go to that one.

Alice (23:57)
It was huge, was epic, was really cool, but man, it was dirty.

Dani (24:01)
Yeah, yeah, sometimes

the really hardcore like bodybuilder powerlifter style gyms are pretty grungy like get a tetanus shot because because I was exhausted.

Alice (24:11)
And just picture this, like, I don’t know why Dani didn’t come, but it’s okay.

But the whole, like pretty much the whole Plant Built team that was there was just like, let’s all go to the gym together. And I remember being in there and Katya’s deadlifting and recording. And I’m just like, yes. Everyone spread out, like there were different rooms where you could, there were like some dedicated powerlifting rooms. And it’s like, you know, I’m talking like.

Dani (24:27)
Yeah. Yeah.

Alice (24:35)
painted brick and like graffiti all over the place. And so it was just like, we’re trying to be serious, but we had such a good time.

Dani (24:38)
Right.

Hmm. Yep. Yep. Been there. Not that gym, but… Yeah, I pretty much knew that. I remember thinking like, they’re gonna go hang out. Like, that’s what they’re gonna do. And I am so freaking tired. I still have so much work to do. I’d rather get the extra hour of sleep or whatever before this insane 10-hour day standing at the booth, so…

Alice (24:45)
You’re have some really great stories. But yeah.

In fact, I want to say if you were traveling, please like I recommend to everybody like get that workout done, whether you’re doing bands or the gym first thing before anything else, because you’re going to be exhausted and you’re not going to want to do anything, especially like you’ve had the long day of whatever you’re there to do, whether it be work, whether it be sightseeing and getting 30,000 steps and then going out to dinner. So you’re going to be full. You’re going to be exhausted. The last thing you’re going to want to do is adhere to your plan at the end of the day.

Dani (25:31)
Yeah, yeah, you just brought up another good thing is like walk, walk wherever you can when you’re traveling, try to, Giacomo and I always make a point to try to see as much as we can see. And usually that’s like on foot, especially if we are on a vacation, like that’s usually when we get the most steps. It’s not a work trip, it’s a vacation trip, because we’re like, we’ll never be here again, let’s make sure we see everything. And that builds in a lot of wiggle room for your diet.

Alice (25:32)
Ha

Dani (25:56)
believe it or not. I don’t think people realize, I actually did this math yesterday for a YouTube video I was recording. 5,000 steps a day equates to 20 pounds a year. Like the calorie burn or not burn. So what I was talking about was how my steps had decreased so much and I was explaining like, this is why the steps matter so much, just moving.

matters because and then live on camera was like let me do the math and I was like okay so if I’m 5 000 steps less now than I did you know a year ago and I did that every single day for an entire year that would equate to the caloric equivalent of 20.8 pounds in a year. Isn’t that crazy?

Alice (26:34)
is, but

it doesn’t surprise me with how with with like working with people the way I do now and that’s like the number one thing that we talk about is steps.

Dani (26:39)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, just move,

move, move. And I’m really struggling with that because work has just been so batshit, like literally insane. So, let’s, so walking more will build more wiggle room into your diet, but let’s talk about diet. So you had started to talk about protein. So everybody, feel like this is where you’re going to find the most individuality in terms of how people do things is going to be with the diet and like what people.

Alice (26:49)
Yeah.

Dani (27:05)
feel like they need to have on them to feel like they can do what they’re trying to do. So I pretty much always pack my breakfast, which is the cereal with the edamame puffs. And then I get soy milk wherever it is I’m going and like, boom, that’s 50 grams of protein for breakfast. Like the head start that I have with breakfast is great because I too, a hundred is like the minimum for me. Maybe I could get away with 90 maybe, but like.

I would like to still get my regular amount of protein. I feel better that way, et cetera. So I always bring my breakfast. I have clients that make the protein bagels and bring those with them when they travel. I have historically made a loaf of our protein bread and literally traveled with a loaf of bread.

Alice (27:47)
Yeah,

I mean, I break the loaf of seitan, so, yep.

Dani (27:49)
Yeah, I

mean, is it sane? I don’t know if it’s sane, but I have done it in the past. When I’m trying to be a little bit more minimal, I always bring the breakfast. I always bring some bars. I always bring some jerky and I always hit a grocery store, whether that’s to go to a grocery store with a rental car or whatever, or if it’s to Instacart groceries to the hotel, which a lot of people don’t realize you can do an Instacart can be a little bit hit or miss, but I’ve had a lot of success with it. You do pay a little bit more for it, but.

you know you’re paying more for everything when you’re traveling anyway might as well get the foods you like

Alice (28:21)
I don’t Instacart

everything. I’ll pack what I can that is dry. So I’m almost always packing a protein cereal. I have started packing the edamame puffs, even though unpopular opinion. I’m one of the few that’s just like, I’m not really 100 % sold on those things. Everyone else is like, edamame puffs. Cool, good for you.

Dani (28:34)
I love them.

Alice (28:42)
No, they’re okay if I can like microwave them with a little bit of milk or something. I just think they’re like too crunchy and too much. know. But yeah.

Dani (28:47)
Hmm Hey, no judgment

for me because that’s how I most people would say like and I bring some protein powder and I’m like, ew why like You know everybody like and then people come up to me they’re like, ⁓ I noticed that you don’t use protein powders Can you tell me what’s wrong with protein powders? I’m like they’re gross. Like that’s my answer There’s nothing wrong with them. They’re fine. They’re convenient. Their macros are outstanding, but also it like I don’t want it

Alice (28:55)
Yeah.

you

Packing some protein powder, packing the Edamame puffs, packing a protein cereal. ⁓ Now we’re forced to use post-premier protein since they discontinued our beloved Wheaties protein. And then I’m also gonna pack things that I’m just really not gonna wanna buy like ⁓ my creatine, obviously, but also like I’ve started buying vanilla powder because it’s so much easier to travel with than liquid vanilla extract, cocoa powder.

Maybe some cinnamon, you know, these are things that I’m just using like regularly. who’s going to want to buy a whole thing of that when we get there, right? You can put them in little baggies, anything that’s dry and anything that’s not like super cheap and easy to get. Like I have packed oats before, but it’s so easy to just go get oats from the store. You know, I think the only challenge would be like finding a small enough thing. So maybe it was a really short trip and something like that.

Dani (29:58)
Yeah.

Dollar

Tree. Dollar Tree has the real small oats.

Alice (30:05)
yeah,

well do they have them without all the sugar added though?

Dani (30:08)
I think so. I mean, it probably depends on the Dollar Tree, but yeah, I’ve bought oats at Dollar Tree for like some watch me make super cheap food videos before.

Alice (30:16)
So yeah, if you can pack anything that’s dry and that’s gonna just easy travel, it’s not gonna take up a bunch of weight. So bars also, always pack an entire box of Nugo bars because even though I don’t want to eat that whole box on a trip, a lot of times it happens. You can’t really pack Owyn shakes, but when you get there, you find them, those are awesome. 32 grams. So when I get there, the first thing I want to do is go to a grocery store.

Dani (30:25)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

right.

Alice (30:44)
I’m going to go to a grocery store and get any, like I said, if there is a protein that’s easy to find, like the Morningstar chicken strips, like maybe Boca burgers, if I’m like really just jonesing for burgers, things like that. And then I’m going to buy vegetables. It’s really hard to get your vegetables. I’m going to buy some frozen berries because wherever I want to go, it’s got to have a microwave, right? Mini fridge.

and I don’t usually buy like tofu when I’m traveling, although you could buy the ready-made kind. I’m known clients to do that a lot.

Dani (31:11)
That’s the

one that I do. I buy the like pre-baked ones, especially because that’s, to me, that’s a little bit like a treat because I would never buy that here. I would just always make tofu from scratch. But when I’m traveling, I’m like, ooh, I have a reason to spend $4.50 on these two squares of protein.

Alice (31:28)
Exactly. then if

there, so I save Instacart for if there are some specialty vegan products that I usually cannot find and I know that I’m going to be just miserable without. A good example, ⁓ it has been like my silk soy yogurt. That’s something that I always try to order. You have something.

Dani (31:47)
No, not specifically. I was thinking about how when I travel sometimes I get the Greek yogurt, the Kite Hill Greek yogurt, because I can’t find it here. So that also feels like a treat for me. One of the things that we always do, and this especially works if you have multiple people with you, even if it’s just me and Giacomo, we still do this. You’ve seen me do this. We get the stuff to make Tofurky sandwiches. So I’ll buy a loaf of bread, packages of Tofurky, like one package of cheese is enough for the entire week.

Alice (31:54)
Okay.

Dani (32:12)
We get mustard, which is like a dollar, and then lettuce, tomato, pickle, depending on like what we want. Sometimes hummus or something. And then when we’re working during the day, and you could do this even if you were out sightseeing and it would save you the money of eating out twice a day, we just pack the sandwiches and we put them in our little collapsible Tupperwares, which, you know, Alice brought some stuff to show you guys, but there are some items that we use when we travel that make these things a little bit easier.

And that’s one of them. Maybe you can show it to them. So it collapses down to be like less than an inch tall, but it pops open to, think that’s the same one I have. It’s like six cups. Like it’s big. So we can fit two sandwiches in that. And then when we’re done, you just collapse it down. If you have leftovers from a restaurant, works well for that.

Alice (32:51)
Yeah.

If you’re watching on YouTube

guys, can see me showing this stuff. Yes, I have one of these. So I really am a huge fan of like food safe silicone. It’s better for microwaving, right? And just getting like regular plastic. We never want to apply microwave and plastic. We can help it. And so a lot of times the food safe silicone is going to come in this weird blue color. There is food safe silicone in other colors, but ⁓

Typically this one I found to be less fragrant as far as the silicone smells.

Dani (33:26)
Mm-hmm.

You know what I’ve noticed

with the silicone stuff is you definitely, whatever dish soap you’re using to clean them, make sure it’s unscented because it seems like a lot of silicone products do suck up the smell of the dish soap. And that’s, that’s weird. I don’t like that, but I’ve heard and I haven’t actually tried it yet. If you take the, if it has like that soapy smell or whatever, if you bake the whole thing for a few minutes, allegedly it gets rid of that completely. So.

Alice (33:54)
I’m sure probably when you get home, soaking it in some vinegar probably as well.

Dani (33:58)
Yeah, that’s probably a good idea. ⁓

Alice (34:00)
⁓ I have the cup. I’m

really a big fan of these and sometimes I use them around the house too.

Dani (34:06)
Don’t you also have the kettle?

Alice (34:07)
have the kettle. I use camping silverware so there’s like a knife on this side. You can’t really see but like this are rated but it’s really like they’re really super nice. You can buy a whole pack of these and then they like bungee together.

So Dani talked me into buying this thing. So I have a kettle because you know, you know, well, you know that horrible, horrible video of people like cleaning their personal clothes in the hotel, like coffee makers. So I think that’s really how these are gaining popularity, but you can get the, the kettles as well. Also filled food safe silicone and these collapse down as well.

Dani (34:27)
funny because I don’t even have it.

Alice (34:48)
I have the little lid. You can have it, you know, set to boiling and it boils really quickly. You just plug it in. It’s pretty easy to pack. This isn’t the smallest thing, obviously. I mean, I’ve always got my bowl. I’ve always got my camping silverware. I’ve always got my cup. I don’t always bring the kettle, especially if I’m trying to just do like a carry on.

But I get really creative.

Dani (35:13)
What else? ⁓ I got these heated lunch boxes for our whole coaching team for Christmas and they’re really cool. Again, they’re not the smallest thing. So if you’re traveling on a plane, this probably wouldn’t work. But if you’re like doing a road trip or something, it’s ⁓ a lunch box that has like a metal Tupperware inside of it and you can hit some buttons on it, say when you want your food in there to be hot and it’ll heat it up for you.

which is great if you have something that you don’t necessarily want to eat cold or you’re like on the road all day and you want to have a hot meal without having to stop and go somewhere. It’s really good for that. ⁓

Alice (35:49)
There’s also the

hot, I think it’s called, is it the hot shot? I have one of, they’re in the closet, I didn’t pull this one out. But it’s actually just a soft version of that basically. And then it’s got glass on the inside and it’s got just a heating thing on the bottom and it’s made for the car. So it has the adapter to be plugged into the cigarette lighter. So there’s a whole bunch of things that people are coming up with to be really creative with this. You talked about protein powder. There are times when I am like,

Dani (35:58)
Mmm, okay. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Alice (36:16)
Addicted to sir like I’m just like really on like a like a shake fix and I will actually bring a immersion blender I brought this to Dani and Giacomo’s house for actually

Dani (36:26)
that’s right. Mm-hmm. You lunatic. It was

especially funny because we have an immersion blender, so you didn’t have to bring it here.

Alice (36:36)
You don’t feel, I don’t know, you don’t wanna like go through someone else’s like entire like kitchen appliances when you’re staying with them. I don’t know.

Dani (36:43)
I

would literally never care at all. It would make me very happy to see people. Like when Ben shows up and he barely says hi and he just goes into the fridge, that warms my heart actually. I’m like, I’m so glad. They’re so comfortable. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Alice (36:45)
I know.

No, but mostly like for a hotel room, you know, um,

and, and it’s, it’s, I’ll pack the protein powder guys. And then I go to the grocery store. get soy milk, a lot. Usually I’m making like a pina colada protein shake. So I’ll get some, um, some pineapple juice. I’ll get a banana. Um, I might have packed some coconut extract or just skip the coconut part of it. Um, and easy, easy peasy, a little stevia.

And this works beautifully. comes with a cup that will literally, you can blend it in. ⁓

Dani (37:26)
I

have some clients that have something kind of similar but different. It’s basically like a little shaker cup with a blender in it. Now I know there’s a million of these and I’m sure some of them are trash and don’t do anything, but some of my clients have ones that are good enough to blend up frozen fruit, which is cool. I couldn’t tell you the brand though, so you’d have to do some digging on that. What are some other little tidbits that people might not know? One, you can bring food through security.

at an airport. A lot of people don’t think you can bring like homemade food through security or even packaged food as long as it’s not like a liquidy gel-ish type consistency. Like I’ve had a jar of peanut butter taken away from me in security. Had a jar of protein cookie dough taken away in security. That was painful because I had just bought it at the expo. I like, I just stand over here and eat this whole thing? Because they can’t see through it.

So sometimes I’ll take the food out and like look at it But I’ve other than that the peanut butter situations like I’ve never had anything taken away from me Even if you want to get liquid through security if it is frozen if it is rock solid frozen when you go through security They will let it through so it’s got to be pretty

Alice (38:35)
Including ice packs guys,

so if you’re trying to have a cooler I still have my my little cooler bag that I carry looks like a photography case. It’s so big But as long as it is frozen when you mostly frozen when you go through security, it’s not going to be confiscated You can also get specialty types. They call them bricks They’re basically like they have a little mold that’s solid that allows liquid to seep through so there’s not as much liquid that needs to be frozen

Dani (38:43)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Alice (39:02)
And those are typically very security safe and they won’t confiscate.

Dani (39:07)
You can also take powders through security. People get really, really weird about this because they think if they like put their creatine in a Ziploc bag and take it through security, they’re going to think it’s drugs and they’re going to take it away. And, you know, I’ve taken so many baggies of powders through security. And, you know, I’ll be honest with you, before I had TSA PreCheck, they did usually pull it out and look at it. But, but it, it, we’ve never had any problems getting anything like that for security.

Alice (39:29)
Yeah, they look at it.

Dani (39:35)
You know what we have had problems getting through security? Because Giacomo is probably even weirder than you and the stuff that he brings with him is his scale. His floor scale. Yeah, he put that in his his luggage and both ways on our last trip they like stopped and looked at it and they were like, bro I don’t know about this. They did let it through but it was like they didn’t have a protocol for it because like they don’t usually see bodyweight scales go through security.

kind of funny, just because it’s so big and like metal and glass and I don’t know. ⁓

Alice (40:05)
As

long as you are keeping it in its packaging, I find that they don’t mess with it. Even if it’s open. I have never had a powder confiscated.

Dani (40:11)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, me either. But mine look a lot more like drugs than that one does. But they still haven’t confiscated it. I think a couple times they’ve swabbed the outside of it, but they never did anything with it.

Alice (40:17)
everyone.

Well, people get

really, I make security very nervous when I bring my frozen seitan and a carry on. Every time they take that out and they’re inspecting it. If I chop it up to make it look like lunch meat, then it passes. No one has to be excited. If it’s a brick, they’re like, I see them take it out. like, oh, geez.

Dani (40:31)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, but if it’s a brick.

Yeah. So

if you’ve never taken food through security like that before, give yourself an extra five to 10 minutes just in case, right? Just in case they do start looking through it. I don’t want to be responsible for you getting held up on your flight. And the last thing is, of course, to me, I feel like this goes without saying, but a lot of people don’t do this, is your water bottle. Like just take it empty through security and fill it up on the other side. That’s it. And I like this one. I mean, this is…

Hey, it’s another present I got for us all for Christmas one year, but it keeps hot stuff hot, keeps cold stuff cold. So when I’m there, if I want to have coffee or tea in this, it’s still going to work. I just have to change the top out. So yeah, I don’t really bring a food scale with me when I travel anymore, do you?

Alice (41:23)
Thank you.

If I’m cutting, do bring a new scale. Otherwise, no. And they have really small ones that you can get, but I haven’t bothered. My regular kitchen scale is not that heavy. I haven’t had that big of a problem. yeah, I like to two cups because I’m very particular and don’t like to put coffee in my water bottle. But I’ll have a smaller stainless steel cup that has a bit. That’s dedicated for coffee. Matcha, I get on matcha kicks, so I’ll talk about

Dani (41:27)
Right, yes, if I’m cutting.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah,

Alice (41:52)
Bring this kettle.

Dani (41:53)
I do that if I’m driving. If I’m driving, I usually bring two, but if I’m flying, I am a carry-on girly through and through. Like I am not checking a bag unless I absolutely have to. Like we have to for this cruise because we have to bring all the bands for all of our classes and like books and stuff. So I’m already kind of pissed off about that. I hate checking a bag more than anything. But so if I’m just doing a, sorry, go ahead.

Alice (42:16)
For road trips, highly, highly recommend, this is a thing, you can get a plug-in cooler that you can plug into your car. Mine is on wheels and I have taken that inside the hotel. Sometimes I’ll just transfer my things to the mini fridge. Sometimes I will use both. And then you have extra, like, especially if I’m cutting, because you just need so much more and you need so many more specialty products.

That’s my pro tip. A lot of you are like, what? Plug-in cooler? That’s a thing?

Dani (42:44)
Well, hear me

out. So a lot of the stuff we’re talking about is like how to stay on track while you’re traveling. But I would be remiss if I didn’t say you could take almost all of these tips are also how to save money on food while you’re traveling. Because if you don’t do this stuff, you have to go buy breakfast, lunch and dinner and snacks, you know, multiple times a day, every day at restaurant or convenience store prices is crazy. So even though the cooler

Like for one person that’s not getting ready for a bodybuilding show, that’s probably overkill. But like if you’re traveling with people, if you’re traveling with your family and you’re like, hey, I would like to save $100 a day by having a cooler that keeps our lunches in it so that we don’t have to keep buying it, it’s a really good way to save money as well. So.

⁓ And the last thing, okay, a couple more things I would say is one of the things we don’t usually talk about with travel is coming home. Like coming home usually takes a few days to get back on track for pretty much everybody, I would say. So this is another time where Instacart can be a godsend. If you can have your regular groceries waiting for you when you get home, that’s one last trip you have to make when you get home, when you’re usually like just trying to get settled and back into your groove really quickly.

I would say probably don’t weigh yourself for a couple of days when you get home because whether it’s up or down, it’s probably like an outlier of a number the day that you get home. Unless you’re like me and you sometimes like to step on the scale because it makes you laugh because you know it’s going to be a wild number. But if you think it’s going to affect you negatively, just don’t stand on it for a couple of days. I’m telling you it will be in a normal place in a couple of days unless it was a particularly

crazy trip, which hopefully it’s not because you’re taking the tips that we’re talking about in this podcast. Set your house up. Go ahead.

Alice (44:27)
you’re gonna

be like holding on to water no matter what you’re traveling whether it’s in the car or on a plane or on a boat you’re gonna be holding on to water so that number on the scale don’t freak out like if you if you if you are really really like I’ve got to go on the scale every single morning like just remind yourself like don’t beat yourself up over it it’s not it’s not your real weight that was all

Dani (44:48)
A lot

of people also get really bloated when they travel. Cause you’re sitting for long periods of time while you’re traveling, you’re using a bathroom that isn’t yours, which could sometimes make people’s digestion get a little bit weird. So like when I have clients traveling in for a competition, bodybuilding or powerlifting, like we need to get there a few days early. Cause the body’s got to settle. But other things I can think of is set your house up before you leave so that when you come home, there’s this…

minimal stuff you have to do to get back into your groove. You know, have your laundry other than what you’re taking with you. Have that done before you leave. Keep your kitchen nice and tidy. Get the trash out so it doesn’t stink by the time you get home or anything in your fridge that’s going to stink by the time you get home. Get that out. We made that mistake on one of our last trips and it took me forever to figure out what in the fridge was stinking to high heaven. You were here for that, right? Yeah. And I was like, what is that? Like I kept thinking like, it’s got to be this.

Alice (45:38)
Yeah.

Dani (45:42)
took, I think it was, it was greens that were in a Tupperware, like a fully sealed Tupperware that just stank so bad that we could smell it outside of the Tupperware. Gross. So don’t do that. Yeah, I guess, I guess those are pretty much all of my tips. There’s probably more little ones if I sat here and thought about it for a long time, but.

Alice (45:58)
I would just say also when you’re planning your food, plan for what you’re going to eat on travel days. I know a lot of people are fine just like fasting all day. I am not fine, not fine, especially, especially if I’m cutting. so just like, just like Dani mentioned, the sandwiches, like I’m planning, I’m counting my travel days in my sandwich purchasing decisions and grocery purchasing decisions.

Dani (46:06)
Mm.

⁓ Apples.

As long as you’re not traveling internationally, in which case you cannot travel with produce. But if you’re traveling within the country, I always keep a few apples in my bag as well. So I usually travel on the day I’m flying out. I make a hearty breakfast sandwich that to me feels like very treat-like. It’s pretty high in calories, but it prevents me from buying crap at the airport. And that’s very expensive and never the macros that I want it to be. At least this is closer.

Alice (46:49)
Never frown.

Dani (46:49)
But sometimes

I find that I get real snacky on the plane, even if I’m not actually hungry, which is so annoying. There’s nothing worse than like wanting to eat when you know full right and well you’re not hungry. But that’s when I usually bust out an apple, which, you know, it’s got water, it’s got fiber, it’s sweet, it works really well for me. And just even emotionally to know that I have a few apples in my bag, so even if we get stranded somewhere.

I have some food and I have a couple because Giacomo will be like, no, no, I don’t want any apples. And then as soon as I eat one, he’s like, can I have a bite? So I always bring one for him too.

Alice (47:18)
you

sandwiches, I instead of an apple, I always have to have a Dave’s bagel. That’s probably my airplane comfort food and some Nugo bars.

Dani (47:23)
Mm-hmm.

Nugo bars always and often I don’t even touch the bars when I travel but I always have them in my backpack because you just never know when you’re gonna get stuck.

Alice (47:35)
Sometimes

I get on the plane and just like, I just want to eat all the worst things. Give me chocolate now. That’s the only thing I want.

Dani (47:40)
Yeah,

it has to be like a Pavlovian response of being given snacks on planes. It has to be because otherwise it doesn’t make sense. Oh, I remember we talked about on the last one that I didn’t say. We’re getting real close to an hour here. When you are traveling from the East Coast to the West Coast, you’re adding three hours to your day. You have got to give yourself some more macros for that day, even if it’s like 150 calories more or something.

you’re gonna be a lot hungrier traveling from east to west and don’t feel bad if you have to bump your calories up by like 10, 15 % for that day. Cause also you’re usually like waking up earlier than normal to get on a plane and you’re walking a lot more than normal. So, I mean, there were times I was traveling east to west coast on prep at the end on my low calories, like literally feeling like I was ready to faint cause I was right. I was trying to stick to my regular.

prep macros in a day that was significantly longer. So it’s tough sometimes to make these judgment calls for yourself, but you have my permission. Eat a little bit more when you’re traveling east to west, but don’t necessarily cut calories going the other way. Unless you’re just genuinely like, I’m full, I don’t want to eat because this is a much shorter day. That’s okay. But if you’re feeling like you’re kind of…

like punishing yourself a little bit because the day is shorter or you suddenly feel like the day is shorter. So therefore I must have less food. Like don’t do that.

Alice (49:04)
Don’t, don’t resort, don’t, if you reach a point in your travel where it’s like, don’t know what to eat, I don’t want to go out of my way to find food. Like I always say to people, like, I would rather you go a little bit over than go away under because yeah, most of us were talking, most of the people were talking to you, you’re on a diet right now, right? You don’t want the weight loss from missing meals, you know, fasting.

that a lot of times is going to be the kind of weight loss you don’t want.

Dani (49:32)
And it’s the

kind of weight loss that makes you binge eventually.

Alice (49:36)
Exactly.

regular meals, try to keep that up as best as possible, even if it’s not ideal when you’re traveling.

Dani (49:42)
And stay hydrated. Stay hydrated because it’s really easy to get dehydrated when you’re traveling because you’re busy and you’re not thinking of drinking water. But depending on where you’re traveling, like when you traveled up here, Alice, like because we had the heat blasted for winter, it’s so dry. gotta drink, yeah. Gotta drink more water. The plains are usually very dry, kept with low humidity. Drink more water there. I think that’s it. I think we crammed a lot into this episode, actually.

Alice (49:55)
My hair.

you

I’m glad that I had all my cool stuff to show off because I dork out about it.

Dani (50:08)
Yeah, yeah, I love it,

I love it. This just makes me think I have to start packing for the cruise. have not even started. Oh man, can’t, like my, I cannot, my stress is so high right now, guys. Hopefully you can’t tell, but I’m like, swing, like way off the charts with all the stuff that I’ve had to get done this week and then like, oh shit, we gotta rerecord this episode and I still have to pack.

Alice (50:15)
You should see the mess that is in this office right now.

I’m just half

asleep. So I’m sorry. I’m sorry for my spacing earlier. I’m just like, I’m not sleeping.

Dani (50:38)
no, I didn’t notice at all

other than that you told me, but otherwise I didn’t notice. So, all right guys, well, hopefully you enjoyed this episode. If you have any travel tips that we forgot to mention, I would love to hear about it. If you’re watching this on YouTube, leave it in the comments down below. If you’re not, you can always shoot us an email, coach@veganproteins.com If you’re looking for any kind of one-on-one coaching, that is what we do. We have five incredibly intelligent, caring,

vegan coaches who would love to be a part of your fitness journey. You can find us all on Instagram. Alice is vegan proteins. Alice, I am vegan proteins. Giacomo is muscles by Brussels. Ben is Ben A. Mitchell and Sawyer is soy boy fitness coaching. Everybody’s got something a little bit different that they put out there. So it could be fun to follow them all. And if you message any one of us, you will hear back from us. So any requests for the podcast, shoot them to coach at vegan proteins.com.

And again, if you are looking for one-on-one coaching, I believe the link for the coaching assessment is in the show notes or in the YouTube description down below. Fill that out. You’ll hear back from one of us within a business day. I think that’s everything. Once again, my name is Dani and we will talk to you later. Bye.

Alice (51:43)
I’m Alice.